I've never used more than a default theme. How do I add one - the standard / isn't pulling anything up; I added /ascii to my /themes directory, and Mystic didn't take care of the rest...

Does that directory need the .ini first, or am I missing something??

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Hello Paulie420,

Pretty dumb for a wise guy ;) - its way more simple:

1. create a dir in the themes dir
2. create the subdirs and copy the files you need/want from the existing theme 3. edit the theme.ini and change the theme name
4. start mystic config and it detects the new theme now
5. start editing

I noticed in the config that you also need to change the appearance order.

... You gotta keep 'em separated

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Hello Paulie420,

Pretty dumb for a wise guy ;) - its way more simple:

1. create a dir in the themes dir
2. create the subdirs and copy the files you need/want from the existing theme 3. edit the theme.ini and change the theme name
4. start mystic config and it detects the new theme now
5. start editing

I noticed in the config that you also need to change the appearance
order.

Thanks... I figured it out, but appreciate your tips. I think I was using data from an older text theme - but... getting it ironed out. Now I just have to figure out how to change to a new theme, and how I'll handle that with my setup.

I did get it installed, tho. :P



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Hello paulie420!

On 06 Jul 2021, paulie420 said the following...

using data from an older text theme - but... getting it ironed out. Now
I just have to figure out how to change to a new theme, and how I'll handle that with my setup.

You probably want to set your custom theme as the default theme for new users (Configuration --> General Settings --> Default Theme).

And perhaps stop Mystic from asking new users what theme they'd like (Configuration --> New User Settings 2 --> Ask Theme: No).

Users will still be able to select a theme of choice from the Account Settings menu unless you restrict usage for the theme you don't want them to use. For instance, if you don't want anyone to use the stock theme (the one in the "themes/default" directory), you can do so with Editors --> Theme/Prompt Editor --> default (or the theme(s) you want to disallow) --> List ACS: %
The % ACS will disallow everyone (including the SysOp).

Also note that you will have to change the selected theme for each and every existing user manually; Editor --> User Editor --> <username> --> 1 (Settings 1) --> Theme --> enter the theme directory name of your custom theme. If a user has a theme selected (e.g. the stock "default" one) to which he/she doesn't have access (as per the List ACS of the theme), Mystic will complain and disconnect the user on login, if I recall correctly.

Hope this helps! :)

Best regards
Zip

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using data from an older text theme - but... getting it ironed out. N I just have to figure out how to change to a new theme, and how I'll handle that with my setup.

You probably want to set your custom theme as the default theme for new users (Configuration --> General Settings --> Default Theme).

And perhaps stop Mystic from asking new users what theme they'd like (Configuration --> New User Settings 2 --> Ask Theme: No).

So, I've done both of those a while back; users get the DEFAULT theme at first, and I don't ask them/allow them to change, neither here...

Users will still be able to select a theme of choice from the Account Settings menu unless you restrict usage for the theme you don't want
them to use.

I also HAD taken this out of my User Accounts Menu; BUT if I get this ascii/text theme working I might add it back... OR allow them to select @
login - but I think I'd prefer some out of the way access in the menu...

For instance, if you don't want anyone to use the stock
theme (the one in the "themes/default" directory), you can do so with

default (or the theme(s) you want to disallow) --> List ACS: %

Editors --> Theme/Prompt Editor The % ACS will disallow everyone (including the SysOp).

Cool cool - I think I follow this, currently I have the new ascii/text them set to s255 so I'm the only one who can even see it yet...

Also note that you will have to change the selected theme for each and every existing user manually; Editor --> User Editor --> <username> -->
1 (Settings 1) --> Theme --> enter the theme directory name of your
custom theme. If a user has a theme selected (e.g. the stock "default" one) to which he/she doesn't have access (as per the List ACS of the theme), Mystic will complain and disconnect the user on login, if I
recall correctly.

Well, I don't think I'll have to make many changes - cause for the life of my board I've only used DEFAULT, so I belive all the users are already happily going alone with DEFAULT activated.

See, what I'm doing here is... my board is ANSI heavy, and some of my users are from countries with REALLY low data - 100/mb for the entire month... so I went and grabbed xqtr's ASCII theme, and I'm gonna modify it to my mystic- but it was created on a different version of Mystic, so the setup/directories IT used weren't really correct for a47...

I THINK I have it working a bit better- instead of ascii_text and ascii_menus, I've put THOSE in /text and /menus IN the /theme/ascii folder... and instead of ascii.txt (for a prompts file) I changed that to prompts.txt in the /themes/ascii folder... copied my /themes/default/theme.ini to /themes/ascii and modified it... So, I'm getting there. :P

I don't wanna change anything, just ALLOW a couple users to SELECT the ascii as a theme option. I'll prolly just do this in the User Account menu, and again - I don't want the to REALLY be an option - just there for those who NEED it.

Hope this helps! :)

Best regards
Zip

Yes - I've never worked with themes before; and heck I might want to one day... but for THIS one, its more function - I also noticed I can use the scripts fallback feature and send that to DEFAULT, so I might be able to add in SOME of my MPL features (like my Discord webhooks/announcers etc) into the ascii theme so it doesn't lose all functionality.

I went to find a switch theme menu command, and didn't see it quickly - so... I'm gonna go hunt a bit today. :P Thank you Zip - ALL that info helps, as its my 1st time.



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Hello paulie420!

On 06 Jul 2021, paulie420 said the following...

I don't wanna change anything, just ALLOW a couple users to SELECT the ascii as a theme option. I'll prolly just do this in the User Account menu, and again - I don't want the to REALLY be an option - just there
for those who NEED it.

Sounds great!

Actually the ability to support ASCII is one of the things I like with Mystic.

And being able to use pipe (MCI) codes in .ASC files and having Mystic translate it to ANSI or ASCII as needed, on-the-fly, is a very nice feature!

I remember my first attempts at a BBS back in 1993 I think it was -- I started with some kind of remote access functionality in a software called ComIt (from Tradewind Software). It came with my SupraFAXmodem 24/96i and gave
MNP4 and MNP5 (software) support, if I remember correctly. I believe that one presented an ASCII interface to users.

Later on I switched to something similar in Telemate and customized it quite a bit -- including the messaging functions -- then finally went for RemoteAccess.

And now, 25 years later, switched to Mystic. =)

Best regards
Zip

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Sounds great!

Actually the ability to support ASCII is one of the things I like with Mystic.

You know what - my latest 'issue' is that Mystic wasn't showing me both my themes when I ran a (GI)14, but you just gave me a thought and... I have ascii set to NOT allow ANSI; I bet that means that it won't display it to ANSI users, hence.... ..... :P I bet when I set that to true it displays that theme to all users.

Actually the ability to support ASCII is one of the things I like with Mystic.

And being able to use pipe (MCI) codes in .ASC files and having Mystic translate it to ANSI or ASCII as needed, on-the-fly, is a very nice feature!

Agreed; when creating 2o I went so crazy over the top ANSI that I just thought I'd only ever support THAT - however, I'm now thinking about creating a new, third, theme with ANSI but that is a bit nicer to users... in the end allowing me to support more users.

I think I just ironed out my last issue, and you weren't even trying to answer that part. :P

... ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI.



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Hello paulie420!

On 07 Jul 2021, paulie420 said the following...

my themes when I ran a (GI)14, but you just gave me a thought and... I have ascii set to NOT allow ANSI; I bet that means that it won't display it to ANSI users, hence.... ..... :P I bet when I set that to true it

Ah, yes, that sounds like it could be it!

I think I just ironed out my last issue, and you weren't even trying to answer that part. :P

Glad to be able to help! :-D

Best regards
Zip

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my themes when I ran a (GI)14, but you just gave me a thought and... have ascii set to NOT allow ANSI; I bet that means that it won't disp it to ANSI users, hence.... ..... :P I bet when I set that to true it

Ah, yes, that sounds like it could be it!

Weird; it wasn't the issue. I've since had another sysOp come and look at my work. They suggested adding a /scripts folder in the /ascii theme - to no avail. And it LOOKS like there might be some theme issues in the newest a47 build; some info in the WHATSNEW.TXT... so I'm really thinking its not me.

I'm gonna erase that ascii theme, and create a carbon-copy of my default.. named something else. See if Mystic sniffs that one OK. Really weird; I can force a switch to 'ascii', use it... force a switch back - but it won't list it in a normal theme switch menu command.

Anyway, I feel that I learned a LOT about themes... and I still thank you for that. :P

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Hello paulie420!

On 08 Jul 2021, paulie420 said the following...

- to no avail. And it LOOKS like there might be some theme issues in the newest a47 build; some info in the WHATSNEW.TXT... so I'm really
thinking its not me.

I had some trouble with the theme editor not saving the fallback choices correctly, but it was corrected as of the 07/06/21 A46 prealpha (for x86_64 in my case).

default.. named something else. See if Mystic sniffs that one OK. Really weird; I can force a switch to 'ascii', use it... force a switch back - but it won't list it in a normal theme switch menu command.

Yeah, really strange... No error messages in the node*.log logfiles?

Anyway, I feel that I learned a LOT about themes... and I still thank
you for that. :P

You're very welcome! :)

Mystic has so many options. Both a blessing and a curse sometimes. :)

Best regards
Zip

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I had some trouble with the theme editor not saving the fallback choices correctly, but it was corrected as of the 07/06/21 A46 prealpha (for x86_64 in my case).

Yeah, really strange... No error messages in the node*.log logfiles?

So... I think this must be some issue with the current a47 build. BECAUSE, another sysOp duplicated the same exact issue...

Couple things I can't figure out, tho; other sysOps who use multiple themes haven't chimed in or mentioned issues....

And another thought I just now had; maybe I should temporarily/debug turn on 'ask user themes at login' to ON and see if both are listed there. If they ARE, that might explain that its JUST an issue when using the (GE) 14 menu command to display themes.

Anyway, I'll continue to dig and test... theres a new build I can install, too - but I believe the other sysOp who tested WAS on the newest build... hmph.

:P

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Hello paulie420!

On 09 Jul 2021, paulie420 said the following...

turn on 'ask user themes at login' to ON and see if both are listed
there. If they ARE, that might explain that its JUST an issue when using the (GE) 14 menu command to display themes.

That's a good idea -- perhaps there is simply something wrong with the GE command...

Fingers crossed! =)

Best regards
Zip

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