Hi @all,

I'm new to Mystic and am just setting up my new BBS.
Thanks to the great videos by The Mystic Guy, it was fairly easy to set up
the base system and connecting to fsxNet and FidoNet.

In the late 90s I used to be a point at FidoNet using CrossPoint (on DOS and OS/2) but then the dark ages of Internet took me and I ignored BBSing for a while.

The next part of my BBSing will be to draw some ANSI screens (using TheDraw
in DosBox), get to know the menu system and editor of Mystic and fill up some file areas :)

But I have two questions right now:

1.
Is it possible to use an external editor, like GoldED, to read/write messages? While the BBS internal editor is nice, it is not as comfortable as I remember eg. CrossPoint in message handling.
Does somebody use another editor and has it configured to use the Mystic messagebase?

2.
I've heard (from my FidoNet uplink) that Mystic has some problems with MIS/BinkP crashing and using up 100% CPU when a BinkP connection is incoming
- and some sysops switched to using an external BinkP daemon.
Is this still a problem in recent versions of Mystic and something to worry about?

Thank you very much!

Have a nice day :)

Regards,
Anna

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Re: Some new-user Mystic questions
By: acn to All on Sun Nov 15 2020 01:49 pm

Is it possible to use an external editor, like GoldED, to read/write messages? While the BBS internal editor is nice, it is not as comfortable as I remember eg. CrossPoint in message handling.
Does somebody use another editor and has it configured to use the Mystic messagebase?

Yes. I use golded with hpt but you could do that with Mystic too.

Mutil has an option to export an areas.bbs file so you can use that to help get golded setup. It might need tweaking but the bulk of it is there.

I've heard (from my FidoNet uplink) that Mystic has some problems with MIS/BinkP crashing and using up 100% CPU when a BinkP connection is incoming - and some sysops switched to using an external BinkP daemon.

I haven't experienced these kind of problems. Mystic's built in tosser and mailer are simple and effective.

Is this still a problem in recent versions of Mystic and something to worry about?

I don't think so, use the tosser and/or mailer of your choice.

Also, Mystic has an internal ansi editor that you might find useful.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 15 Nov 2020, acn said the following...

1.
Is it possible to use an external editor, like GoldED, to read/write messages?

I don't have any experience with GoldED. I know there are some users here, so I'll let them chime in on this one.

2.
I've heard (from my FidoNet uplink) that Mystic has some problems with MIS/BinkP crashing and using up 100% CPU when a BinkP connection is incoming- and some sysops switched to using an external BinkP daemon.
Is this still a problem in recent versions of Mystic and something to worryabout?

I've run Mystic on both Windows and now the Raspberry Pi and I've not had any issues (that I know of) with crashing or high CPU usage.

Jay

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1.
Is it possible to use an external editor, like GoldED, to read/write messa

I was just working on getting GoldED+ to work. Following the responses ;).

oP!

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Is it possible to use an external editor, like GoldED, to read/write

Yes. I use golded with hpt but you could do that with Mystic too.
Mutil has an option to export an areas.bbs file so you can use that to hel golded setup. It might need tweaking but the bulk of it is there.

Thanks for the point in the right direction-- I got GoldED+ running now, but was wondering if there could be some automated export.

oP

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Hallo Jay,

I've run Mystic on both Windows and now the Raspberry Pi and I've not
had any issues (that I know of) with crashing or high CPU usage.

Okay, thank you! This is a relief :)

Regards,
Anna

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Hi Al,

Yes. I use golded with hpt but you could do that with Mystic too.
Mutil has an option to export an areas.bbs file so you can use that to help get golded setup. It might need tweaking but the bulk of it is
there.

Thank you for the hint with the area.bbs export!
I will try that.

I haven't experienced these kind of problems. Mystic's built in tosser
and mailer are simple and effective.

[...]

I don't think so, use the tosser and/or mailer of your choice.

I'm glad to hear that this problem seems to be solved. :)

Also, Mystic has an internal ansi editor that you might find useful.

I've looked into it, but every time I opened and closed the menu screen, part of my image (where the menu used to be) disappeared and only returned if I changed something in this part of the image.
That was "a bit" annoying, so I will use TheDraw! again.
Also the font function of TheDraw! is nice :)

Regards,
Anna

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Hi,

Mutil has an option to export an areas.bbs file so you can use that t
golded setup. It might need tweaking but the bulk of it is there.

Thanks for the point in the right direction-- I got GoldED+ running now, but was wondering if there could be some automated export.

I've also looked around mutil.ini and did not find this "areas.bbs" export function.
As aunt Google tells me, this seems to be an option for an older tool where MUTIL is the successor to.

Is there another tool to get such an export of the message bases?

Thanks!

Regards,
Anna

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Re: Re: Some new-user Mystic questions
By: acn to Al on Sun Nov 15 2020 08:38 pm

Thank you for the hint with the area.bbs export!
I will try that.

I saw in another post you couldn't find the option in mutil. It's label in mutil.ini is Export_AREAS.BBS but it was just added to mutil recently in one of the A47 prealpha's.

It was a function of mbbsutil at one time (that is no more) but is now in mutil, at least the prealpha version.

Also the font function of TheDraw! is nice :)

Yes, I have fond memories of TheDraw. I'm no ansi artist but I did use those fonts.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 16 Nov 2020, acn said the following...

I've also looked around mutil.ini and did not find this "areas.bbs" exportfunction.
As aunt Google tells me, this seems to be an option for an older tool whereMUTIL is the successor to.

I believe the author g00r00 added it back in the A47 prealpha available at:

http://mysticbbs.com/downloads/prealpha/


Jay

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Hi Al,

I saw in another post you couldn't find the option in mutil. It's
label in mutil.ini is Export_AREAS.BBS but it was just added to mutil recently in one of the A47 prealpha's.

Ah, that's a good reason why I couldn't find it :)
Thanks for the hint!

I will then reflect about it and decide whether I install the prealpha or do
it in some other way.

Regards,
Anna

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On 16 Nov 2020 at 05:26p, acn pondered and said...

Ah, that's a good reason why I couldn't find it :)
Thanks for the hint!

I will then reflect about it and decide whether I install the prealpha
or do it in some other way.

Be aware these can change by the day and other times sit still for weeks at a time. If you're just starting out I'd stick with the publicly listed file :)

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Re: Re: Some new-user Mystic questions
By: acn to Al on Mon Nov 16 2020 05:26 pm

I will then reflect about it and decide whether I install the prealpha or do it in some other way.

Yes, that export seems to have been missed when mbbsutil was removed but it is back in there now.

I do run the prealpha myself but no one relies on that BBS for anything at all so I never need to worry if problems crop up.

In my experience the prealphas are quite stable but that is where new features are added so that is where "stuff" happens. If problems do show up they are also fixed quickly but you have to keep it upto date, so depending on your situation you may oe may not want to run a prealpha.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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I've also looked around mutil.ini and did not find this "areas.bbs" exportfunction.
As aunt Google tells me, this seems to be an option for an older tool whereMUTIL is the successor to.

Is there another tool to get such an export of the message bases?

From WHATSNEW.TXT:

[snip]
+ Added new MUTIL function [Export_AREAS.BBS] to create an export of all
Echomail message bases in the AREAS.BBS file format. See the default
MUTIL.INI for example.
[snip]

In my /mystic, this is a stock mutil.ini file that gives a description of this function... I could copy and paste it; but maybe you're on an earlier version of Mystic than a46??? That would explain why its not there.



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Hallo paulie420,

(export AREAS.BBS)

In my /mystic, this is a stock mutil.ini file that gives a description
of this function... I could copy and paste it; but maybe you're on an earlier version of Mystic than a46??? That would explain why its not there.

Yes, this function is new in a47...
Thanks for looking!

Regards,
Anna

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Hi Al,

I do run the prealpha myself but no one relies on that BBS for anything
at all so I never need to worry if problems crop up.

In my experience the prealphas are quite stable but that is where new features are added so that is where "stuff" happens. If problems do show up they are also fixed quickly but you have to keep it upto date, so depending on your situation you may oe may not want to run a prealpha.

Thank you for this field report.
I will think about all that :)

I might also try a look at SynchroNet and compare it against Mystic... :)

Regards,
Anna

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Re: Re: Some new-user Mystic questions
By: acn to Al on Tue Nov 17 2020 03:22 pm

I might also try a look at SynchroNet and compare it against Mystic... :)

Synchronet and Mystic are both BBSs but they are not similar at all.

A good place to start if you want to look over Synchronet is..

http://wiki.synchro.net

Install instructions are here..

http://wiki.synchro.net/install:index

Ttyl :-),
Al

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