Hey Bob,

MBSE talks to Leafnode (Filtering features), and leafnode
talks to the NNTP server (In this case it's Avon's).

What kind of filters are you running? I just started bringing in
Usenet and its so full of garbage that I'm having to drop entire newsgroups. I'm currently filtering out messages which are
crossposted more then 4 times, but you still get the psychopaths
that post these crazy long rants 20 times every day into individual groups.

I use the built in filter features of leafnode.

maxcrospost = 1
maxage = 7

Being very selective in the groups.

It's so discourgaing how spam has ruined usenet.

If you want to look at the filter file it's here:

http://vk3heg.net/filters




\/orlon
VK3HEG


--- MagickaBBS v0.15alpha (Linux/armv6l)
* Origin: \/orlon Empire: Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)

Hi Oli,

vorlon wrote (2021-02-04):

Great. MBSE is a option for you if you can't get soupgate
doing what you want. Although it's a full BBS package, you
could just use it to do the news gating.

It's also not doing the gating right (see my the reply to
Avon's first reply), better than soupgate though.

Send in a pacth then. #-)

The advantage to MBSE if Avon wanted to go down that route, is
that the code is maintained to this day and is in active dev.

AFAIK the original developer doesn't work on it anymore and the new
repo doesn't even include the commit history from the original

[...]

by it's original author). What I didn't like was that it created an
OS user account for every BBS user. I only would run it in a

I've been using MBSE since 2007, initially as a full bbs and then latter
as just a mailhub.

separate container.

My setup for news groups is like this:

MBSE talks to Leafnode (Filtering features), and leafnode talks
to the NNTP server (In this case it's Avon's).

I remember MBSE had everything included (BBS, Tosser, Mailer, NNTP
and more). Is it possible to use MBSE as a gateway that processes
mail without running the complete system? (I don't remember in
detail how MBSE worked).

Even though the bbs functions are still there, none of them are enabled
for my system.

The mails gated by MBSE look somewhat better than the ones from
soupgate, but there are still many problems. What would be the
advantage of MBSE over e.g. Synchronet?

I've only seen Synchronet from a user point of view and I did't like the
way it operated, so never looked at the sysop side.

I still would love to see something that is as simple to use as
soupgate (without being a complete BBS+everything package) and as competent as fidogate.

The quickest way would be to fix the bugs in soupgate.




\/orlon
VK3HEG


--- MagickaBBS v0.15alpha (Linux/armv6l)
* Origin: \/orlon Empire: Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)

If you want to look at the filter file it's here: http://vk3heg.net/filters

Thank you. This is helpful.

Bob Roberts
--- SBBSecho 3.12-Linux
* Origin: Halls of Valhalla -:- hovalbbs.com:2333 (21:2/118)

vorlon wrote (2021-02-10):

Great. MBSE is a option for you if you can't get soupgate
doing what you want. Although it's a full BBS package, you
could just use it to do the news gating.

It's also not doing the gating right (see my the reply to
Avon's first reply), better than soupgate though.

Send in a pacth then. #-)

Isn't that the responsibility of the user? ;-P I'm not feeding these wrong messages to the public network. I cannot fix everyone's broken software.

I still would love to see something that is as simple to use as
soupgate (without being a complete BBS+everything package) and as
competent as fidogate.

The quickest way would be to fix the bugs in soupgate.

Thought about it. The problem is that there is a lot of stuff that is missing. Echomail to netnews is not that difficult. The other way around, parsing an RFC5322 message is much more complex than an FTN packet. Soupgate does not even try to parse netnews messages properly. Since it's last release it only have got more complicated. I think it's best to use a tested library for this and at this point I think it's easier to start from scratch than to bend the old code base around this or be limited to a C library.

Others with better C skills than me might disagree. I would love to see an improved Soupgate, but looking at other (better known, but still abandoned) FTN software projects, I doubt it will happen.

---
* Origin: . (21:3/102)